Thanks SK! I can’t move the feeders. The pole is smack in the middle of my backyard and cemented into the ground. It’s not accessible by trees. The idea of a better baffle could work but I would need to fashion something around the existing baffle since it’s permanent. I can move it up and down though. I’ll give these a try. I’ve thought of bear spray. I’ve googled deterrents like fox urine but haven’t tried it yet. Last night I moved the feeder up to that middle piece of the pole. They were tilted but still accessible to the birds. They weren’t messed with last night but it’s still a hassle to do that every night and go out every morning to put them back down. This getting up at 5 and then going back to bed is ridiculous!,